Bro Orlam is way to close for comfort. It was a nice game (despite the lack of personal space)! I always enjoy any snippets of the OW cast when we can get them! A wonderful job as always Carrot! Keep up the good work and take care of yourself!
Hhhhhhh thank you so much for playing?? I'm glad you enjoyed it, even though it's just a small snippet! Though I also hope it'll be a nice lead-in to when I will release the next part of Arc 5 🤭 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT!! It means a lot!! Thank you for taking the time to leave such a lovely comment!!! 😭💕
OMG this game is super COOl. srry my english is shit so im gonna use spanish. Consegui el segundo final primero, ese en donde Genzou says "I killed hin" AND MY MIND WAS SHOCK. Me di cuenta THIS WAS IN THE GAME, in the "our wonderland" GAME! and quize jugar otra vez... just to be sure.
LDKJALSDKFJALDKFA IT'S OK DON'T WORRY I TRANSLATED THE BITS
Yes, this is supposed to be That Scene from Arc 2 and lead into the Arc 2 finale 🤭 I thought it would be a fun chance to show like a little hidden scene from the game, plus not even I had ever thought through the details of exactly what happened until now, so I enjoyed it from that perspective too.
Thanks so much for playing!! And I'm glad you enjoyed it -- as well as the connection back to the main game lakdfjsa It means a lot that you enjoy my story and characters ahhhhh 🥺💕
damn genzou, what did you do to orlam to make him this deranged.........
orlam might be a bad person who engages in a spot of casual cannibalism here and there, but i can't help but feel for him. the poor guy was mistreated so badly growing up, it's no wonder he'd be a littol bit deranged now he has some power...
it's nice to see him being so vulnerable here, even when he's the one ostensibly in control. he might be talking down to genzou and trying to act unaffected, but you can tell what happened between them still weighs on him. poor cannibal bby............
ah, the text bubbles, the use of animation, and the ui is really good too! it looks very polished! a lot of effort clearly went into the presentation, but i'm more invested in the messy character drama. you managed to communicate a lot about genzou and orlam's relationship in very few words; it's very impressive!
edit: also darn i got ending 3 first and i thought it concluded not toooo miserably. endings 1 and 2 make me feel very bad for orlam, though... he really needs a hug.................. not from genzou though lol, they should stay away from one another also, i found all 3 endings pretty intuitive and easy to get; i didn't have any problems getting them.
I'm so glad you liked it ahhhh THANK YOU FOR PLAYING??? I greatly enjoyed getting to write some more patent-pending Orlam dialogue LMAO I'm happy you enjoyed the dynamics... 🥺💕 These two inflict in me many a heart-wrenching and guttural set of feels, so I was hoping I'd be able to get some of that out in this despite the limitations. I DO LOVE A MESSY CHARACTER DRAMA LOL And characters that are very bad for each other but can't stop revolving around each other LOL
Ahhh and thank you for the nice comments about the UI and everything. I'm always a bit nervous as I don't have much experience. But I feel like with every new game I do I learn a little more and get a little better 🤣
I'm glad you were able to get all the endings pretty easily!! I'm worried about it being a bit too hard -- in particular ending 2, which is even worse as that's the actual canon one LOL (Tho in my head because of the loops, they're technically all probably canon and did happen in one of the loops, we just didn't see it or something ldkfjasd)
GUHHH ANYWAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LEAVING SUCH A NICE COMMENT it means a lot!! 😭💕 And I'm really glad you liked this little game!! I hope it will act as a nice build-up to when I release the next part of Arc 5 lakdjfasd 🤭
THANK YOU SO MUCH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH that means a lot!! I'm really glad you liked it???? SPIRALING LDAKJFDLKA Thank you so much for playing!! Weeping a little godddd 😭💕
First and foremost, THE DANCE????? IT LOOKED SO GOOD?????? AAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!! Using linear movements on the background so skillfully should be forbidden, Carrot!!!! You're proving once again that your animation skills in Ren'Py are OUT-THERE (if everythiny you created hadn't already proven it somehow lmaooo).
The art was gorgeous!!!! The background looked wonderful and Orlam's different expressions were all expressive and engaging!! The way you separated all the parts of the sprites was really engaging!! You managed to create different emotions using so little!!! The magic of O2A2!!
The GUI too managed to look fancy yet subtle, it really was a refined one. And I loved the main menu screen and its variations!!
Now, blame my dense brain but I FAILED TO GET THE THREE ENDINGS!!!! Well, I did get them eventually, but to get ending 2 (which is the canon one moreover edfvgbrtegr) I had to cheat, extract your archive and read the code I am so bad at video games efbtrg'frfc (like, for Hiro's entry, it's only the third time I played the first dialogue that I understood what I was supposed to do).
For the story, it was very interesting to get a glimpse of what happened "behind the scenes" during Act 2, since Our Wonderland only puts us in Iggy's shoes! The exploration of Genzou and Orlam's dynamic was really interesting! (SPOILERS BELOW)
Like, I know all too well that, although Genzou is perfect for Iggy, he's nothing more than a trashcan when it comes to Orlam, really a horrible being dfrvgbtrd. And so seeing Orlam enjoy Genzou being submissive, seeing Orlam enjoy having power over his past bully... like, I get where he comes from, but it still feels so horrific, aaaah!!! You managed to create such a mood so successfully with that! How despaired he was in the ending 1, how cocky he was in the ending 2, with him asking if the tears were for him (and yet, it felt so desperate at the same time), THE PACING OF THE ANIMATION CONVEYED THAT PERFECTLY TOO??????
(END OF SPOILERS)
Another great game from you, but at this point, who's surprised? The work you did on it is tremendous (and I'm not even mentioning the WORKING ANDROID BUILD???) and you can be highly proud of it!! Surely an amazing game, a treat for both those who played Act 2 of OW and those who haven't yet (because of course everyone will run to it after having played this wonderful entry)!
Thank you for taking the time to write up this comment????? IT'S SO MUCH LKDJFAKDSF 😭💕
I'M GLAD YOU LIKED THE MOVEMENT. It was the first thing I did to make sure I could do it and it would actually look ok (because if I couldn't then I would have to do something else LOL) It took a lot of finagling to get it to go with the music tho.
This was the first time I actually separated all the parts of the sprite tbh LOL normally I just save each complete sprite since my files are so tiny anyway, but with this one I felt like it could be easiest/give me the most options to separate everything, so it was quite new for me to do it this way LOL It admittedly felt slightly overwhelming at times thinking about how I wanted to manipulate every single part 🤣 I'm not sure I'd do it again except for another short game tbh... 💦
LOL OK YOU'RE THE SECOND ONE THAT'S SAID NOW THEY HAD TROUBLE GETTING THE "CANON" ONE ALKDJFLAKSD maybe I should have made it easier I REALLY WASN'T SURE. Then again it's the one where you have to actually be agreeable with him, which I guess is the hardest to do from a player perspective LMAO Maybe I'll tweak it in the future or add a hint or something... 🤔
HELP A TRASHCAN I'M SOBBING
I'm really glad you enjoyed the peek into Genzou's POV and the whole....... thing..... he and Orlam have going on GODDDDDD THEY PAIN ME SO MUCH FOR REAL. I am so angry at them and sad for them constantly 💦 I'm happy that a lot of those various emotions from the different endings could be felt so viscerally. I feel like with the POV style especially it would come across quite strong but also you never know when it's your game how people will react or it will be interpreted/felt alkdjfasd
LOL THE ANDROID BUILD WAS A LOT EASIER THIS TIME I didn't have nearly as much to change, it was mostly just tweaking the menus since I already had a basic idea of how to do things from last time 🤣
GUHHHH ANYWAY. THANK YOU SO SO MUCH READING THIS JUST MADE ME OVERWHELMED WITH FEELINGS. This is such a precious and lovely comment to me hhhhhhh..... Thank you always for all your support and comments and love for my games I shall weep. 😭💕
Dang, you took the words out of my mouth! I don't mind, though - it's too good a game for that. :P
[SPOILERS AHEAD]
Anyways, here's how to get all three endings:
Ending 1: Be as uncooperative as possible. Defend Iggy, choose the snarky answers which are at Orlam's expense, etc. Seal your fate with an uninterrupted "fuck you" rant to Orlam.
Ending 2: Mix up your responses between submissive and self-deprecating as well as being uncooperative. DO NOT rant at Orlam if given the opportunity.
Ending 3: Be the sub to Orlam's dom. Capitulate to Orlam at every available opportunity, and be sure to snark at your own expense, never Orlam's. (This ending prevents you from ranting at Orlam.)
Seeing the promo I felt dread, playing I also felt dread!!!
Gosh this two are REALLY bad for each other aren't they?
It was so immersive!
But, I'm having trouble with the other endings because I just can't bring myself to indulge him too much (lol) I'm bad at completing vns, chosing the things that don't come naturally feels so wrong, specially here! I would guess that. feeling wrong to say what he wants to hear it's kinda the point.
The dance effect it's so well done!!! and. did I mention the DREAD?!! (yes Taumi, like a billilion times already)
Also, also, I agree, kinetic text tags are Cool™ what a good way to insinuate intonation/tone!!!
I AM GLAD IT IS DREAD-INDUCING??? (maybe) (i-i mean I suppose that's the vibe lkfajdflakd)
....they really are, it's true 😭 Something something and yet they keep circling around each other in a cruel dance dklajfldsk
LOLOL NO I GET IT. It's hard to say the "right" things to actually make him happy (the variable I used is literally "orlammood" and it goes up and down based on your answers hahaha). And I'm the same way when it comes to playing any kind of games with choices -- I find it so difficult to do or say anything I wouldn't myself BECAUSE I JUST FEEL BAD.
I'm glad you like the dance effect akldjfa it was the first thing I coded to make sure it would actually work before I continued with the rest 🤣 AND YES I HAVE FALLEN IN LOVE WITH KINETIC TEXT TAGS. I really want to use them more now that I've gotten a taste lakdjfas
Thank you so much for playing and for taking the time to write up your thoughts, ahhhhhhh it means so much??? 🥺💕
I got all the endings. Gods, this was a nice experience. It gives a whole big creepy feeling of knowing you can't really escape and having to oblige... until you either get discarded or... well, no spoilers. Great job as always, I'm rating it 5 Orlams
I WAS A BIT WORRIED SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE HARD (it's so difficult to gauge when you know exactly what you need to do because you made it lakdsjflak)
Hhhhhh thank you for playing and I'm glad you liked it??? I was def going for that type of feel, so I'm glad I was able to get some of it across despite the limitations 🤣
I loved the creative way you made it seem like we were dancing. Such an easy to grasp idea in theory, but so cool in execution! I loved the intimate nature of it. I am sadly not up to date (yet) with OW, but I still felt like I somewhat understood the scenario, which I think is a testament to your ability to create mood and context! Awesome work!! <3
The one thing I would have loved to see is some kind of list of Endings? Or like some sort of indicator how many I've gotten? Just for the sake of completionism... hehehe. Maybe something for an update, if you'd consider it?
AhhhHHHHHHH thank you so much for your comment!! And for playing!! I'm really glad you enjoyed it??? I swear each time I made a new game I am overcome with the desire to Try Something New, hence the playing around with the background and some of the other random stuff like the speech bubbbles, etc., in this. IT'S A GREAT WAY TO LEARN AND EXPERIMENT WITH NEW THINGS. And I'm glad you were still able to at least get a handle on the situation even without the full context of the main game laksdjfad 😭💕
That's not a bad idea! I wasn't sure because I felt like it was obvious from the updated title screen and little message at the end (and there's only three to begin with lakdjfas). But that's def something I could add in the future, even if it's just a small screen in the menu!
Thanks so much for playing and for writing up your thoughts!! It's really sweet! 🥰
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Bro Orlam is way to close for comfort. It was a nice game (despite the lack of personal space)! I always enjoy any snippets of the OW cast when we can get them! A wonderful job as always Carrot! Keep up the good work and take care of yourself!
LMAO TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT INDEED
Hhhhhhh thank you so much for playing?? I'm glad you enjoyed it, even though it's just a small snippet! Though I also hope it'll be a nice lead-in to when I will release the next part of Arc 5 🤭 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT!! It means a lot!! Thank you for taking the time to leave such a lovely comment!!! 😭💕
OMG this game is super COOl. srry my english is shit so im gonna use spanish. Consegui el segundo final primero, ese en donde Genzou says "I killed hin" AND MY MIND WAS SHOCK. Me di cuenta THIS WAS IN THE GAME, in the "our wonderland" GAME! and quize jugar otra vez... just to be sure.
sorry for the espanglish :(
LDKJALSDKFJALDKFA IT'S OK DON'T WORRY I TRANSLATED THE BITS
Yes, this is supposed to be That Scene from Arc 2 and lead into the Arc 2 finale 🤭 I thought it would be a fun chance to show like a little hidden scene from the game, plus not even I had ever thought through the details of exactly what happened until now, so I enjoyed it from that perspective too.
Thanks so much for playing!! And I'm glad you enjoyed it -- as well as the connection back to the main game lakdfjsa It means a lot that you enjoy my story and characters ahhhhh 🥺💕
I'll play this as soon as I'll find the time but for now all I'll say is it's gonna be a banger
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I HOPE YOU'LL ENJOY IT????? 🥺💕
damn genzou, what did you do to orlam to make him this deranged.........
orlam might be a bad person who engages in a spot of casual cannibalism here and there, but i can't help but feel for him. the poor guy was mistreated so badly growing up, it's no wonder he'd be a littol bit deranged now he has some power...
it's nice to see him being so vulnerable here, even when he's the one ostensibly in control. he might be talking down to genzou and trying to act unaffected, but you can tell what happened between them still weighs on him. poor cannibal bby............
ah, the text bubbles, the use of animation, and the ui is really good too! it looks very polished! a lot of effort clearly went into the presentation, but i'm more invested in the messy character drama. you managed to communicate a lot about genzou and orlam's relationship in very few words; it's very impressive!
edit: also darn i got ending 3 first and i thought it concluded not toooo miserably. endings 1 and 2 make me feel very bad for orlam, though... he really needs a hug..................
not from genzou though lol, they should stay away from one another
also, i found all 3 endings pretty intuitive and easy to get; i didn't have any problems getting them.
HELP LMAOOOOOO
I'm so glad you liked it ahhhh THANK YOU FOR PLAYING??? I greatly enjoyed getting to write some more patent-pending Orlam dialogue LMAO I'm happy you enjoyed the dynamics... 🥺💕 These two inflict in me many a heart-wrenching and guttural set of feels, so I was hoping I'd be able to get some of that out in this despite the limitations. I DO LOVE A MESSY CHARACTER DRAMA LOL And characters that are very bad for each other but can't stop revolving around each other LOL
Ahhh and thank you for the nice comments about the UI and everything. I'm always a bit nervous as I don't have much experience. But I feel like with every new game I do I learn a little more and get a little better 🤣
I'm glad you were able to get all the endings pretty easily!! I'm worried about it being a bit too hard -- in particular ending 2, which is even worse as that's the actual canon one LOL (Tho in my head because of the loops, they're technically all probably canon and did happen in one of the loops, we just didn't see it or something ldkfjasd)
GUHHH ANYWAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LEAVING SUCH A NICE COMMENT it means a lot!! 😭💕 And I'm really glad you liked this little game!! I hope it will act as a nice build-up to when I release the next part of Arc 5 lakdjfasd 🤭
I LOVE IT!!!
THANK YOU SO MUCH I AM GLAD????? Thanks for playing 🥰
this was so GOOD. i'm bad at words, but my emotions were spiraling every which way throughout the course of this. the vibes were PERFECT
THANK YOU SO MUCH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH that means a lot!! I'm really glad you liked it???? SPIRALING LDAKJFDLKA Thank you so much for playing!! Weeping a little godddd 😭💕
What a game Carrot!!!!!!!!!!!
First and foremost, THE DANCE????? IT LOOKED SO GOOD?????? AAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!! Using linear movements on the background so skillfully should be forbidden, Carrot!!!! You're proving once again that your animation skills in Ren'Py are OUT-THERE (if everythiny you created hadn't already proven it somehow lmaooo).
The art was gorgeous!!!! The background looked wonderful and Orlam's different expressions were all expressive and engaging!! The way you separated all the parts of the sprites was really engaging!! You managed to create different emotions using so little!!! The magic of O2A2!!
The GUI too managed to look fancy yet subtle, it really was a refined one. And I loved the main menu screen and its variations!!
Now, blame my dense brain but I FAILED TO GET THE THREE ENDINGS!!!! Well, I did get them eventually, but to get ending 2 (which is the canon one moreover edfvgbrtegr) I had to cheat, extract your archive and read the code I am so bad at video games efbtrg'frfc (like, for Hiro's entry, it's only the third time I played the first dialogue that I understood what I was supposed to do).
For the story, it was very interesting to get a glimpse of what happened "behind the scenes" during Act 2, since Our Wonderland only puts us in Iggy's shoes! The exploration of Genzou and Orlam's dynamic was really interesting! (SPOILERS BELOW)
Like, I know all too well that, although Genzou is perfect for Iggy, he's nothing more than a trashcan when it comes to Orlam, really a horrible being dfrvgbtrd. And so seeing Orlam enjoy Genzou being submissive, seeing Orlam enjoy having power over his past bully... like, I get where he comes from, but it still feels so horrific, aaaah!!! You managed to create such a mood so successfully with that! How despaired he was in the ending 1, how cocky he was in the ending 2, with him asking if the tears were for him (and yet, it felt so desperate at the same time), THE PACING OF THE ANIMATION CONVEYED THAT PERFECTLY TOO??????
(END OF SPOILERS)
Another great game from you, but at this point, who's surprised? The work you did on it is tremendous (and I'm not even mentioning the WORKING ANDROID BUILD???) and you can be highly proud of it!! Surely an amazing game, a treat for both those who played Act 2 of OW and those who haven't yet (because of course everyone will run to it after having played this wonderful entry)!
GOD YOU'RE GONNA MAKE ME CRY
Thank you for taking the time to write up this comment????? IT'S SO MUCH LKDJFAKDSF 😭💕
I'M GLAD YOU LIKED THE MOVEMENT. It was the first thing I did to make sure I could do it and it would actually look ok (because if I couldn't then I would have to do something else LOL) It took a lot of finagling to get it to go with the music tho.
This was the first time I actually separated all the parts of the sprite tbh LOL normally I just save each complete sprite since my files are so tiny anyway, but with this one I felt like it could be easiest/give me the most options to separate everything, so it was quite new for me to do it this way LOL It admittedly felt slightly overwhelming at times thinking about how I wanted to manipulate every single part 🤣 I'm not sure I'd do it again except for another short game tbh... 💦
LOL OK YOU'RE THE SECOND ONE THAT'S SAID NOW THEY HAD TROUBLE GETTING THE "CANON" ONE ALKDJFLAKSD maybe I should have made it easier I REALLY WASN'T SURE. Then again it's the one where you have to actually be agreeable with him, which I guess is the hardest to do from a player perspective LMAO Maybe I'll tweak it in the future or add a hint or something... 🤔
HELP A TRASHCAN I'M SOBBING
I'm really glad you enjoyed the peek into Genzou's POV and the whole....... thing..... he and Orlam have going on GODDDDDD THEY PAIN ME SO MUCH FOR REAL. I am so angry at them and sad for them constantly 💦 I'm happy that a lot of those various emotions from the different endings could be felt so viscerally. I feel like with the POV style especially it would come across quite strong but also you never know when it's your game how people will react or it will be interpreted/felt alkdjfasd
LOL THE ANDROID BUILD WAS A LOT EASIER THIS TIME I didn't have nearly as much to change, it was mostly just tweaking the menus since I already had a basic idea of how to do things from last time 🤣
GUHHHH ANYWAY. THANK YOU SO SO MUCH READING THIS JUST MADE ME OVERWHELMED WITH FEELINGS. This is such a precious and lovely comment to me hhhhhhh..... Thank you always for all your support and comments and love for my games I shall weep. 😭💕
Dang, you took the words out of my mouth! I don't mind, though - it's too good a game for that. :P
[SPOILERS AHEAD]
Anyways, here's how to get all three endings:
Ending 1: Be as uncooperative as possible. Defend Iggy, choose the snarky answers which are at Orlam's expense, etc. Seal your fate with an uninterrupted "fuck you" rant to Orlam.
Ending 2: Mix up your responses between submissive and self-deprecating as well as being uncooperative. DO NOT rant at Orlam if given the opportunity.
Ending 3: Be the sub to Orlam's dom. Capitulate to Orlam at every available opportunity, and be sure to snark at your own expense, never Orlam's. (This ending prevents you from ranting at Orlam.)
Seeing the promo I felt dread, playing I also felt dread!!!
Gosh this two are REALLY bad for each other aren't they?
It was so immersive!
But, I'm having trouble with the other endings because I just can't bring myself to indulge him too much (lol) I'm bad at completing vns, chosing the things that don't come naturally feels so wrong, specially here! I would guess that. feeling wrong to say what he wants to hear it's kinda the point.
The dance effect it's so well done!!! and. did I mention the DREAD?!! (yes Taumi, like a billilion times already)
Also, also, I agree, kinetic text tags are Cool™ what a good way to insinuate intonation/tone!!!
I AM GLAD IT IS DREAD-INDUCING??? (maybe) (i-i mean I suppose that's the vibe lkfajdflakd)
....they really are, it's true 😭 Something something and yet they keep circling around each other in a cruel dance dklajfldsk
LOLOL NO I GET IT. It's hard to say the "right" things to actually make him happy (the variable I used is literally "orlammood" and it goes up and down based on your answers hahaha). And I'm the same way when it comes to playing any kind of games with choices -- I find it so difficult to do or say anything I wouldn't myself BECAUSE I JUST FEEL BAD.
I'm glad you like the dance effect akldjfa it was the first thing I coded to make sure it would actually work before I continued with the rest 🤣 AND YES I HAVE FALLEN IN LOVE WITH KINETIC TEXT TAGS. I really want to use them more now that I've gotten a taste lakdjfas
Thank you so much for playing and for taking the time to write up your thoughts, ahhhhhhh it means so much??? 🥺💕
I got all the endings. Gods, this was a nice experience. It gives a whole big creepy feeling of knowing you can't really escape and having to oblige... until you either get discarded or... well, no spoilers. Great job as always, I'm rating it 5 Orlams
YAY I AM GLAD.
I WAS A BIT WORRIED SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE HARD (it's so difficult to gauge when you know exactly what you need to do because you made it lakdsjflak)
Hhhhhh thank you for playing and I'm glad you liked it??? I was def going for that type of feel, so I'm glad I was able to get some of it across despite the limitations 🤣
5 ORLAMS OMG THAT IS THE HIGHEST HONOR????? 🥺💕
The endings seemed pretty intuitive to me!
ACK!! This was so cool!!
I loved the creative way you made it seem like we were dancing. Such an easy to grasp idea in theory, but so cool in execution! I loved the intimate nature of it. I am sadly not up to date (yet) with OW, but I still felt like I somewhat understood the scenario, which I think is a testament to your ability to create mood and context! Awesome work!! <3
The one thing I would have loved to see is some kind of list of Endings? Or like some sort of indicator how many I've gotten? Just for the sake of completionism... hehehe. Maybe something for an update, if you'd consider it?
Thanks for the experience! <3
AhhhHHHHHHH thank you so much for your comment!! And for playing!! I'm really glad you enjoyed it??? I swear each time I made a new game I am overcome with the desire to Try Something New, hence the playing around with the background and some of the other random stuff like the speech bubbbles, etc., in this. IT'S A GREAT WAY TO LEARN AND EXPERIMENT WITH NEW THINGS. And I'm glad you were still able to at least get a handle on the situation even without the full context of the main game laksdjfad 😭💕
That's not a bad idea! I wasn't sure because I felt like it was obvious from the updated title screen and little message at the end (and there's only three to begin with lakdjfas). But that's def something I could add in the future, even if it's just a small screen in the menu!
Thanks so much for playing and for writing up your thoughts!! It's really sweet! 🥰