Our Wonderland

OMG can't wait!!

This is probably my favourite visual novel on itch.io. It's so well thought out, I love how each arc focuses on a different character's past and relationship to Iggy. Each time I play I find myself having a new favourite character.

I want the best for all of them, can't wait for the final update!

Hi.... replaying it the 5th time. Please... PLEASE OML. I CAN'T STOP SOBBING. GRIHSKJHEGUWQIBFAJ;KNAF ISTG I remember this was one of the first few game I played when I founf out about itch.io. I created an account just to wait for the final arc and write a comment. This game has a special place in my heart T^T

hello! i literally just created an account to scream because HOLY COW aaaa this is so cool and i am hit with so many feels and feel the burning need to shower you with compliments.

i found your post on an ace subreddit advertising Our Cinderella and i am now down a rabbit hole of your content (help) alkdsjsaljkd. do i regret it? absolutely not!

first of all, AAAA. i did not expect to be bawling over a horror game but THAT SCENE IN ARC 2 where Genzou tells Iggy that he's not broken for not wanting to do certain things made me tear up sO MUCH. i'm probably overreacting but I. also. had similar fears and really needed to hear it so thank you <3

i'm not a writer so i'm not very good at complimenting writing and plot but it was very good and i was absolutely hooked to the plot all the way. and the FEELS. i waited to finish the game to date before posting so my feelings from Arc 5 are the strongest and AAA JERRY protecting iggy!! the cutscene where genzou hugs orlam and apologises and orlam trying to push him away and aaAAA. EVERYTHING. the bits of humor in it was also REALLY HECKIN GOOD and i was constantly switching between laughing, crying, and oh-noing all the way through it. i'm sorry i'm a bit of a mess at describing things alkjfslkdjaslkj but just imagine me having a giant ball of appreciation and yeeting it your way bECAUSE ITS WHAT YOU DESERVE

i love your art style!! it's so expressive!! the poses are so dynamic and they add so much to the experience! the iggy dolls' body language (and arm flailing) are hilarious and made me love them and then they got chomped and hurt my heart ;;w;; the angle choice of making scary characters tower over you and looking down on you makes them even scarier aaa. and DID I MENTION HOW GOOD THE FACIAL EXPRESSIONS ARE. from the subtle changes that happen as we go through dialogue (genzou hiding his affections for iggy in arc 4, screams) to the very expressive ones (orlam's maniacal laughter to shock to breaking down at genzou's hug in arc 5!!). everything is so well done AAA grabs you and shakes you. tell me your secrets.

sorry aaaa this is not very well put together and i'm pretty sure i didn't get to articulate how amazing this game is and how much i love it as well as i could so please help me dial up whatever feelings of appreciation you feel from this post by 1000x because that's probably more accurate to how i actually feel alASLKJKLJ. 

important news everybody.

They need to be real (specifically Iggy and Genzou I love them they're both so me)

okay but being serious I LOVE THIS GAME!! I will admit that I kinda just made this account to comment here but WHATEVER!! >:P

the game is a rollercoaster of emotions, no joke like YEESH, but I truly love it!! I've been playing it for a good bit + the side games and I really enjoy it all; my mind has found something to hyperfixate on, haha. I really like the fact that Iggy is asexual btw, its not often you find a game with an asexual protag. it really interested me when I found out, and its caused me to really project onto him!! I see myself in him a lot and it makes the gameplay a lot more comfortable for me seeing a character like him having the same problems and worries and such as I might. 

anyway yeah, its an awesome game!! I love the characters and I often find myself ranting about their stories and conflicts to my friends. (I'm trying my best to get them as interested as me, wish me luck! haha)  

saying all this, thank you Carrot, for creating a game with a story and characters that many (including me) love and adore!!<3

Most incredible game I've ever played. Jaw dropping at every line. Beautifully written and illustrated. Relatable characters that you grow attached to (specifically Genzou he is me i am him). This game played with my emotions and had me screaming at my laptop at 2 in the morning.  So excited for the next update <3

I really want to play this on Android 😭

Sorry guys just had to say this

I HATE GIDGET SO MUCH BUT I ALSO FEEL REALLY BAD FOR HER BUT ALSO HATE THE ROMANCE

"Ahem" goodbye and goodnight

THIS GAME IS SO AWESOME i love all these lil goobers :sob:

arc 5 had me SOBBINGGGG even with the games dark and gorey tones the plot stays somewhat comedic and intriguing. I'm glad i found this game when the first arc was out cuz its matured a lot since then. 

i absolutely ADORE this game. literally spent an ALL NIGHTER going through arc 1/2... but currently playing arc 3 and (SPOILERS AHEAD)

can someone reassure me that iggy won't keep being mean to genzou? or will this be a constant theme for arc 3? 😭 i just love my baby boy. my fail guy. he's my wife. arc 1/2 made me fall head over heels for him, and now it's crushing my heart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is this how orlam felt

edit: i have to keep taking breaks whenever iggy is mean to genzou. i'm so normal about genzou (lie) 

edit: MANAGED TO GET THROUGH. WHO CHEERED FOR ME!

now i'm on arc 4, and i'm already crying my eyes out minutes in cause (SPOILERS) gidget is struggling with her image and expectations and that HITS. then, then you DEMON, YOU, HIT ME WITH.. WITH THE GENZOU IGGY CONVO. "would you be with someone like me?" "to me... being with that person is enough." i'min TEARS.. this is a horrible game for an ace-spec, genderqueer person. (positive)

update, i was worried we'd return to rude iggy like before - but no. iggy is Normal and joking with genzou and to be honest, this might be worse. this might be worse. the blatant pining... oh, iggy..... "you'd have to be blind to be attracted [...]" oh my god. genzou is the strongest soldier in all humankind. in all bunnykind. 

I really having fun with the game and am a bit obsessed. I’ve just completed Arc 1 and am at the beginning at Arc 2 and is loving the game so far.

I have one problem though, and this is just my fault honestly, but I think there’s something wrong with me because I keep finding myself laughing at the horror of this game.

Spoilers for events in Arc 1:

For some reason I kept thinking up jokes or laughing at the scenes where the characters are in mortal danger.

When the eye monster tried to eat Iggy and Genzou, I thought, “Hey, that looks like the eye enemy from super Mario, and started jokingly spinning my mouse around in circles.

The entire fucking scene in Arc 1 where Gidget is actively trying to murder Iggy was kinda funny to me. Gidget yelling about how Iggy’s pristine dick was too good to put in her got an active chuckle out of me. Iggy getting strangled was somehow funny, somehow Gidget trying to cut Iggy’s dick off with a pair of scissors was funny. When she died, while both Genzou and Iggy were panicking about their dead friend, I was mentally cheering that she died, and that Genzou did it. Even the zombies were somehow funny.

I don’t know why I find the horror in this game to be kind of comedic most of the time, but I think somehow that works to make the experience memorable and makes me question if I am sane for laughing so much in a horror game. I have no idea if the goal of the game was to make me question my sense of humour and sanity, but it’s really doing a good job at that.

props to you developers!

I hope progress on the game is going well and I’m excited to continue the game. I’ll still probably laugh in a bunch of inappropriate times throughout though.

the game was REALLY interesting, I like Genzou best of the bunch, Gidget was a little too pushy for me, and Orlam was too wild, it turned out to be more bloody than  I had thought but it was still cool, it quite traumatized me a bit so I'm gohad to need a break :)

OK so phew...my comment is gonna be long I know it for sure. I'll give a little bit about my experience of another side game of yours to uh provide context I guess? [Obvious spoilers!] And a TW/CW for brief sexual trauma mention (nothing graphic though)

So I'm familiar with the side game :"texting your awkward ace guy you've had a crush one since highschool" and this made me view Genzou & iggy kind of "better" than everyone else. (Because everyone was complete strangers to me and y'know everyones comforted by something they've already seen before.) To be honest, first going into the game I wasn't sure what I was expecting, like gore, definitely, but what else? I actually...either don't remember or don't know. I was just hooked on curiosity, intrigue, you're immediately set into the wonderland, (ok maybe not technically but besides the point as it doesn't take long lol) and it is like the fairytale. The grandest place for kids to be, like an amusement park.

I really didn't know what rollercoaster I strapped myself in while playing, at first it's calm, maybe a little awkward but I find myself somewhat comforted by Genzou as he familiarizes me to this new world, he's a little mean, but I don't hate characters who are a little rough around the edges. It was admittedly a little unexpected as I thought he wouldn't just swear and insult like a sailor, I mean I thought he would be awkward. ( Though looking back now it's usually only with iggy.) 

You finally return back to wonderland but it's not long before you've come to find things have changed. Not too unlike another game I've played. ( Huge Alice Madness Returns fan) I knew the gore was going to happen eventually ( granted its not shown but we uh, definitely hear it.) And we also see Iggy's and Genzou's reaction to uh, the corpse. After this, things start to pick up, the rollercoaster I've gotten into starts to go faster, practically everything's out to get you, screaming danger. (OH MY GOD when I tell you I hated the first time going on the Kiddie Kruise. I never went to look whenever the collector part came up, the first time I went through this part of the ride I was like scared because of the screaming, but the more times you go on it I would just be antsy around the lighthearted tone the boat ride has like preparing for the inevitable. Just know I FRIGGIN hated when all the options switched to only being able to look. WAAAA) Then you're back to a temporary calm. You see Gidget again, she's seemingly looking and feeling her best. And then, you realize she's not safe either, the false sense of security makes your heart drop. Sure I didn't know literally anything about Gidget other than work I guess up until this point, but the twist makes me basically trust nothing. 

As someone whose also asexual, Iggy's POV spoke to me. I think I'm fine with that kind of adult content until it gets physical. Until I have to actually be there, there is no disconnection of me and the sexual situation, it, yeah makes me afraid, because I feel like I lose control. I just worry over the thoughts of flashbacks coming back, so yeah the game did.. uh really connect to me emotionally. It was probably the most uncomfortable part to get through, but I knew I wanted to see more of the world regardless.

Not long after you're going, running again. And you manage to get away and to no one's surprise we are leaping into just more danger. Orlam definitely like gave me whiplash because he just acts as a complete opposite to his self outside or wonderland. And uh oof cannibalism tag makes sense now. You find his secret, and he finds you. When ya finally get out oh...sorry genzou. ( I still eat him in Orlams arc though as a combo of just well I don't wanna disappoint him and I also DO NOT want to die, so live and eat I will.)  Orlam was surprisingly charming during his arc as I gained a new perspective and like Genzou a LOT less. I mean I can't believe bro really just, yup talked about bros mother after faking giving him a hug that was so wrongggg. AND HIS DAD TOO. C'mon bruh. Like dubble u tee f  [w-t-f] kinds of what the hell is wrong with you. (God if Orlam was real I would friggin love him to hell, give him a hug and all the love he deserves.) OK OK enough of my simping, myself, lmao.  

Iggy...iggy, iggy. Man I have screamed at him a whole bunch to just like DO something, (lowkey praying for 3rd arc iggy to come back ) but I understand that sounds like pretty out of character for him. (thus understanding why he doesn't) But like I almost want to jump in his body and do what I feel he needs to do GAAAAH. Even if that's selfish, reckless, etc.  

I'm not as uh prepared as another commenter and I didn't write notes but just tried to wing this comment through pure memory. ( I just finished to the latest update and UGHHH THE ITCH TO WRITE ABOUT THIS GAME SHSHSH.)  So I'll write a few more things about arc 5 and then you can free yourself from my uh remix of the dictionary. 

I wasn't expecting Gidget to like...find themselves like who they truly are after they lost Cecil. ( BROS A REAL ONE BTW I LOVE HIM TOO LMAO) Uh yeah so as I said like Gidget like changed so much it's like their a different person like it kind of made me forget what happened in the previous arcs surprising. ( of course till it's brought up again) And god Orlam you were hurting so much you cut your own heart out? Like I didn't think of that in the moment of actually playing the game but it's deeply emotional storytelling. His heart full of hate spread though all of wonderland. Up until he gets a small bit of love he's craved. From a person he'd admire (maybe even still admires). If I was where Iggy was at when he asked what you hate about me I would be like. "UH, well I kinda hated you for basically cooking my friend. Granted I ate him because I didn't wanna die, besides the point. But like now I could only empathize with you bro. Like please let me love you???"  Waiting for the next part definitely!! And the other side game as well cuz I NEED those a03 fanfics to read man! XD 

um....end of my rambling now! 

TLDR THIS GAME IS INCREDIBLE, IT'S ONE OF THE BEST VNS I'VE EVER PLAYED, LITERALLY ONE OF A KIND.

(Okay now on to my essay length review. I wrote WAY too many notes while playing this. I-I'm very sorry, I didn't know where else to post this other than here LOL)

I'll keep my compliments of the "game quality" brief and focus on the story (since it's a Carrot game, OF COURSE IT'S BRILLIANTLY MADE), but I will say that I LOVE the artstyle. It's so instantly recognizable and unique (the pixel artstyle, the faces, the noses, the ears, THEY'RE ALL SO CUTE), and the characters are extremely expressive - I screenshotted so many of the different sprites because they're all so great. I really love the background style; the saturated colors, filter, and framing so that the background doesn't quite fill out the screen gives everything a very dreamlike quality that's fitting of Wonderland. The animations are absolutely top tier; it feels like I was watching a fully animated show. When sprites are present, almost every single line has some sort of animation associated with it, making everything feel so lively and dynamic. The cinematic cutscenes at the end of each arc are absolutely amazing, and they really stirred up EMOTIONS in me like you wouldn't believe! 

The writing style is WONDERFUL, particularly the descriptions and the dialogue. The descriptions really paint the setting so well that it feels like I'm standing in Iggy's shoes, and all of the characters have such lively and colorful dialogue (it's incredibly easy to tell who's speaking, even without the color coding). The dev has a great knack for using words, metaphors, and imagery that really "get under your skin" in the most ghoulish and horrific way. Even the non-gorey moments, moments that are filled with unease or awkwardness, feel just as horrifying and queasy as the gorey ones, particularly the parts where Iggy is confronted with physical intimacy that he does not want. The song choice is absolutely BANGER. There's an incredible amount of variety in the music choices, and they all perfectly suit the scene. I am also simply in awe of the amount of dedication put into crediting all of the background sources, SFX sources, BGM artists, etc. 

Since my comments are pretty long, I'll split them up by arc:

Arc 1: 

The opening scene is BRILLIANT. In addition to laying the seeds for the mysteries of Wonderland, each character is efficiently characterized in only a few lines of dialogue. The follow-up scene just makes it better, as we see how the dynamics of the friend group have changed over time - some things have stayed the same, while others have changed dramatically (Bucks' size, for instance). You also see a lot more nuances: Orlam's clumsy jokes and his lies to cover up his insecurities, the newfound awkwardness between Iggy and Gidget, and Genzou's nonchalance despite not seeing Iggy in a long time. 

The entire arc is very well set up in terms of structure, going over key memories with each of Iggy's friends that portend their warped selves in Wonderland, and ending in a spectacular cliffhanger that gives you insight into Iggy's own problems. The time loop at the end of the arc is simply a brilliant way of making the player intrigued, wanting to know more.

Arc 2:

I'm a bit biased, but this might be my favorite (apart from Arc 5, of course). It was so heartwarming watching Genzou and Iggy get closer, seeing Iggy let his guard down around Genzou and letting himself be vulnerable. I honestly really like Genzou's scenes in general because rather than "Genzou scenes," they really feel like "Iggy scenes", as they mainly center around Iggy being vulnerable and honest with Genzou, who he trusts.

I find it really fascinating that all of the "bad" answers - the ones where Iggy keeps to himself, doesn't open up/talk - are the ones that lead to the "good" ending. I think it's fitting since the good ending is also tragic: Iggy's tragic decisions lead to an equally tragic end, where he regrets opening up to Genzou. 

It's interesting that Iggy is a bit "different" in each arc. Rather than being truly himself, he seems to be a "version" of himself that fulfills the desire of the arc's central character. In Arc 2, Iggy is helpless and defenseless (even losing part of his vision as a result of Gidget's attack - reflecting Genzou's own loss of sight in the real world). He needs Genzou's protection. While Genzou is capable and independent in the present, you get to know his feelings of helplessness in the flashbacks, particularly when he loses his cane during prom in Arc 4. So it seems that here, Iggy's helplessness allows Genzou to be the "protector" as opposed to the one that is protected. 

Arc 3:

At first I was curious as to why Orlam's arc was third, as I expected Gidget's to be next considering the "order" of characters in Wonderland; however, in hindsight it absolutely makes sense. The whiplash from Arc 2 is INCREDIBLE. In Arc 2, Genzou is Iggy's protector while Orlam is his sworn enemy, who just finished torturing him. Orlam seems almost cartoonishly evil, someone that you could never sympathize with. However, in just the first few scenes in Arc 3, you're instantly endeared to Orlam: his awkwardness, his desire to please, his self-harm. It's a brilliant way of playing with the player's emotions and their perceptions.

The use of "saving and loading" starts being really interesting in this arc, particularly when you're presented with the choices to finish off Gidget/eat Genzou. The first time around, you get the choice, but if you make the "bad choice," then you aren't given that choice the second time around. 

Iggy in this arc gave me INCREDIBLE whiplash. He's bold and confident, to the point of being aggressive. He's never afraid of speaking his mind, and he's almost strangely confrontational with Genzou (this hurt my heart more than a little bit considering the ending of Arc 2). Iggy's the perfect partner for Orlam; his partner in crime, a person who is willing to play along with Orlam's desire to be the tormenter instead of the tormented. Interestingly, rather than being himself, Iggy almost seems to "become" Orlam. You're only able to achieve the "good ending" by choosing to eat Genzou - which is what Orlam wants. And, in the end, Iggy's ultimate desire is for cleansing/release, like Orlam; he drinks the acid in the river and dies, paralleling Orlam drinking bleach at the start of the arc. It's interesting because it seems that Orlam has always looked up to Genzou, to the point of wanting to become him (and this is probably why his greatest desire is to consume Genzou - to become him by eating his flesh). So here perhaps Iggy fulfills Orlam's desire to be appreciated/admired in the way that Orlam admires Genzou - because Iggy literally becomes another version of Orlam.

(On a side note, this is the only arc where I thought Iggy's name - Ignatius - was kind of fitting LOL otherwise it's really the opposite to how he usually is)  

Arc 4:

I'll have to say that this really was the most horrific out of all of the arcs (somehow, the threat of Gidget's advances was WAY more scary than any of the monsters!) I'd actually say that while Genzou is my favorite character/my favorite partner for Iggy, Gidget is the one that I find the most interesting, partially because they're a little hard to figure out. I think it's because they're always playing a role, constantly trying to do what they "should" be doing as opposed to what they actually want to be doing.

As this arc heavily revolved around sexual themes, Iggy focuses a lot on "touch" (there are a lot of descriptions of how he feels being touched/touching the other cast members). There's a big focus on how Iggy finds Gidget's touch to be the most comforting/comfortable, while being slightly uncomfortable with Genzou and Orlam. In addition, he "plays the right role" for Gidget - acceding to her requests, going to dinner with her, saying yes to her proposal - going along with her "perfect life." 

This arc kind of stands out from the other two in that Iggy doesn't really "reach a happy ending" with Gidget. In Arcs 2 and 3, Iggy does reach a place of understanding/trust with Genzou/Orlam, but Gidget asks things of Iggy that he simply can't do. (The ending sequence in this arc was the MOST horrific.)

Arc 5:

We're on the final arc and it is INCREDIBLY SATISFYING (as of the release of 5.15). I loved every single scene to bits - Genzou's, Gidget's, and Orlam's "revelations" were all so emotional to see (literally teared up), especially given so much buildup from the prior arcs (ESPECIALLY Genzou and Orlam's relationship). I really loved seeing Gidget embrace their true self and witnessing Genzou and Orlam finally come to a little bit of an understanding after SO MUCH pain and vitriol that had been exchanged between the two of them. I really liked how Genzou's "turning point" was really delivered not during his "central scene," but during his interaction with Orlam - where, for once, he decides to stop spreading hate and truly atones for his actions. 

It's interesting that Gidget and Orlam both seem to have counterparts in Wonderland (Cecil for Gidget, and Jerry for Orlam) - who seem to reflect their true selves. I also like how the characters aren't emerging unscathed from this. Iggy is stabbed in the shoulder, and Genzou even loses a finger - physical injuries in exchange for the pain that they caused in the real world. (I just hope that Genzou's finger doesn't affect his livelihood!) 

I really love the use of game mechanics here. In the early sections, you're given a lot of similar choices to Arc 2, but the choices that originally led to bad endings now lead to good endings (choosing to help Genzou, for instance). Moreover, the game makes use of the "taking away the player's choice on the second play" mechanic - only instead of solidifying Iggy's decisions to hurt his friends, this time Iggy chooses to help them. 

In this arc, Iggy actually DOESN'T make anyone happy. Gidget figures it out for herself during her confrontation with Cecil (her "other self"), and Orlam and Genzou overcome their problems with each other. Iggy doesn't play a significant role in either revelation, and it's very fitting. He needs to learn not to place all the fault on himself. All along, starting from Arc 1, Iggy has been blaming himself for his friends' problems; in Arcs 2-4, he tried to make them happy by being the version of Iggy that would make them the happiest, and it only led to tragedy each time. Even in OFW, where he tried to make his friends happy by giving them love/acceptance, they all died in the end. Now, when he's standing on the sidelines and only acting as moral support, the path to a "happy ending" is finally opening. 

In general:

All of the characters are wonderfully complex and three dimensional, and I love how there is a LOT of thought put into their relationships between one another. They have a lot of history with each other, and it shows in the flashbacks and the way that they interact now. You could write an essay about each of the characters, their pasts, motivations, desires, and issues - which is just a testament to how incredibly well done the character writing is.

As the "normal" one, I think that it's easy for a lot of Genzou's complexities to go unnoticed. Compared to Orlam and Gidget, Genzou seems pretty easy to figure out - he's secretly in love with Iggy, and he has been for a really long time. I think it's because Genzou does a good job of hiding his problems. In reality, he feels insecure and washed out; he's blind, and even though he's doing well for himself he's working a blue collar job with no college education. He's basically resigned himself to eternal loneliness, certain that he won't be able to find anyone, and he encourages the object of his affections to date other people, convinced that Iggy will never love him back. His relationship with Orlam is probably the most intriguing thing about his character. For the most part Genzou is calm and level-headed (almost to an insane degree), a reliable friend in a horrific land. And yet when it comes to Orlam, Genzou is extremely, unnaturally antagonistic. Even when Iggy tries to convince Genzou to lay off, Genzou is steadfast in his taunts - even though he seems to realize that he's in the wrong. In Arc 5, Orlam points out that Genzou didn't become a monster in Wonderland because he was already a monster in real life - and Orlam isn't wrong. I'd say that Genzou's main flaw is "complacency." Rather than trying to find companionship, he accepts that he'll be alone. Rather than fighting against Orlam's bullies, he joined them. Rather than accepting his past mistakes, he continued to pretend nothing was wrong. The turning point of Genzou's character is really the acceptance of his mistakes, as he finally tries to change something about his life rather than simply accepting everything as it occurs. 

Orlam is a VERY interesting character. He's a person driven by contradictions. He wants everyone to love him, to look at him, to appreciate him. But at the same time he doesn't trust anyone, and he doesn't want to get close to anyone. He longs for human warmth and affection, but the alienation that he has faced from everyone around him (Genzou, most of all) limits him to only seeking the shallowest of physical relationships. He appears egocentric, looking down on others and not valuing their lives, but he hates himself most of all. He causes others pain because he's in pain. 

Gidget is probably the character that I find the most interesting and honestly the most relatable, as well, partially because I think that they're the most flawed. Unlike Orlam, Gidget isn't lashing out because of pain that they have endured in the real world (while Iggy did hurt Gidget in high school, it was nothing like the continuous harassment that Genzou subjected Orlam to). Instead, Gidget does bad things because they're a "dreamer"; like their modeling career, they can't give up on the perfect life that they dream about - not because they actually want it, but because society as a whole has conditioned them to believe that they need that perfect life. I relate a lot to those expectations, especially as a person that doesn't really conform much to feminine ideals in my own life. I think that Gidget's character perfectly encapsulates the idea of "Wonderland" - how our dreams get warped and changed by adulthood, circumstance, and society until they're ugly and broken.

I'm very curious to see what happens with Bucks and Saydie in the last part, as we don't really know that much about them (apart from Bucks' cameo as the axe-wielding final boss of every arc). I also wonder if we'll learn what Iggy's real wish was. (I wonder if it was to reconcile with his childhood friends?)

I LOVE the general themes and ideas behind this game, and I think they're something that almost everyone can relate to. Past affections and regrets; how things that you do in the past - things that you do out of emotion, or momentary anger - things that you don't mean - can have a really profound effect on your relationships and the people around you. How your actions have CONSEQUENCES, no matter how young or naive you were. How you grow up and regret what happened in life and how you treated the people around you. How even if you get another chance, you can never take back the things that you did, the things that you said - you just have to grow and learn and try to heal. 

If I had to describe this game in one word, it would be: raw. Raw and authentic and vulnerable and painfully real. It's one of those works where I think, "THIS IS ART" and "I'm truly glad that I was born on this world, so I could experience this." 

Thank you so much for the experience, Carrot; it's truly one-of-a-kind. I will be waiting (patiently) for the final part!

Hi, I wanted to let you (Carrot) know that Arc 5 has been a punch in the emotional gut (in a very positive and validating way, if that makes sense).
I'm near thirty and I've never quite seen myself in fiction ever, until Iggy. So I think I now feel less alone in the world and less cut off from other humans, really thanks for that :' )

(I'm also lowkey considering growing a baby rattail lol)

HIHIHI!! BIT LATE TO SHARE MY EXPERIENCE WITH ARC 5 PART 1 1/2 BUT SHUSH. ( IHADWIFIPROBLEMS)

ANYWYAZ! SPOILERS AHEAD!!:

- IM SO GLAD THE LITTLE IGGIES GET A HUMBLE BIG PLACE TO LIVE IN <3 (the safe ones.)

- SCREW YOU RED TOMATO CHILDREN!!!

- JERRY!//??!/1/1/1/11/1?!/?!??!

- WAIT SO OUR FANTASTIC WONDERLAND IS SOMEHOW CONNECTED TO OUR WONDERLAND?? (I THOUGHT ITS OFF STORY HELP?)

- GENZOU ROUTE YUH #GENGGY4LIFE!!

- AWWW THEY LOOK SO CUTE BUNDLED UP IN A BLANKET DJHDJSH ( GENZOU AND IGGY )

- GENZOU LOOKING AT IGGY AND TOUCHING HIS FOOT??? BHDSGDJGJDGS PLEASE YOU TWO BE TOGETHER NOW.

- EWW RABID RABBITS.

- NOOOOO JERRYY!!! ILL MISS YOUUUU even though I have only read through your dialogue once or twice-

- HI ORLAM :3

- WHY ARE YOU PALE AF??

- WHAT HE TOOK HIS HEART OUT????

- EW KINKY RABID RABBITS.

- Im sure when kid orlam meets adult orlam, Kid orlam will be disgusted :p

- POWER OF FRIENDSHIP AND SORRY BOOM YIPPEE

- RUN FAST DOR YOUR FATHE-

- THE FINAL BOSS... BUCK- oh NOOOOO ITS TO BE CONCLUDED WTF.

CARROTPATCHGAMES HII!! IM SO EXCITED FOR THE FINAL PART!! ( SADLY DIDNT PLAY THIS SESSION WITH MY FRIEND IDK IF YOU REMEMBER OR SMTH BUT I USUALLY PLAY WITH MY FRIEND, SO NO WEIRD QUESTIONS ME AND MY FRIEND MADE UP :'( )

HOPE YOU REST AND WORK WELL!! THANK YOU FOR ARC 5 PART 1 1/2 praiseemoji

Warning: Spoilers.

I love, LOVE THIS GAME OML!!! This gamed made me vowed to myself to play all 4 of your games. I have not finish the game since I'm going through exams but URGHHHH ITS SO GOOD!!!! I had to forcefully time myself out just from not trying to touch your game. I love, LOVE, LOVE the jokes and my boy Genzou <333 I need him in my life T^T He would be the greenest flag if he learns how to treat Orlam with more respect! But i'll allow it to pass since he finally was able to apologize.. 

Words cannot tell how much I despise Gidget and Bucks. In the first 3 archs I knew she was already a huge red flag. And OH MY LAWD, BUCKSSS. PLEASE GIVE MY BABY IGGY A REST 😭😭😭😭😭 My mood went up and down like the 'Kingda Ka' and the Takabisha. In arch 5, my heart was PUMPING. I was physically sweating at the chase with the 10 rabbits (that probably had rabbies). And CECILLLL URGGEGFYIYWB, your sacrifice shall not go to waste... Istg Bucks, YOU DARE KILL THEM ONE MORE TIME. I SHALL REACH MY HAND INTO MY COMPUTER AND STRANGGLE YOU LIKE HOW YOU DID WITH ORLAM!!!

I love your games! I have played this, 'our fantastic wonderland' and 'T2A2G'. I'm planning to play save the last dance soon after I finish this! I fell in love with  'Our Wonderland' game INSTANTLY when I played the first 10 minutes. This is honestly the first few games I sobbed just from playing. And the words you used to portray your story is magnificent! After playing till Arch 2 I went straight to AO3 only to be disappointed with so little fanfic T^T.     I honestly would write 10 paragraphs on how good this game is but I can't think of any words how too.

To anyone who's planning on playing Carrot's game. PLEASE DO! It's honestly so good and I love the plot! And please reply, It'll be such an honor for my comment to be noticed 😭

i have two friends who have severe brainrot over this game and have named themselves iggy and gidget

I LOVE THIS GAME SO MUCH!! It's one of my favorite games of all time! I'm so glad I decided to play it, because I saw it many times when searching for something to play and I don't regret downloading it at all!! Characters are so great, realistic and human ahhh, their complicated relationships are amazing and so interesting to learn more about, I LOOOVE ost, I listened it so many times now, plot and writting are so good, scenes are so memorable, artstyle grews on you and is cuuute , and ahhhh I can't describe how I enjoyed playing!! <33

Spoilers for arc 5 part 1 1/2 and previous arcs and maybe bad english (sorry :')) below!! And warning - this is a seriosly long comment lol

Okay so arc 5 part 1 1/2... It made me so emotional ;w; I cry very rarely, but Genzou hugging and apologizing to Orlam... It was such a bittersweet, so well deserved and so anticipated moment... I felt, I knew, there will be scene where he apologizes to him for all horrbile things he has done... But it exceeded my expectations anyway-- All flashbacks from their school years-- And them dancing in classroom after/before the afterprom-- It made me cry so hard... I loved that it was such a long running issue; you could see how bad their relationship is, especially in arc 2, and it wasn't anywhere close to fixing itself and patching things up between them. So this made their hug so much better and more impressive. Also whole animation Genzou standing up, being painfully dragged down and standing up again... Orlam being scared, even covering his head as if he expected a punch... You are such an amazing writer and storyteller, Carrot! Also Genzou not hating Orlam... And how suprised he was everytime Iggy told him how bad he makes Orlam feel... Also arc 2 scene when Genzou was crying after killing him... I don't even know how to describe how I love this part hsvdavvdawcajnza

Also same with Gidget and Iggy. I can relate and understand Gidget in some ways, so I was so so so much Hoping for them to finally be themself and be who they want to be. Also it really suprised me when in arc 1 in flashback Iggy told them these all painful things. I rarely see likeable MCs doing bad things that aren't "cool" or understable in other context, so it made game and him stand out even more and interesting imo. But I'm going to talk about Iggy later, so let's go back to arc 5! Seeing Gidget even more "perfect" in arc 5 was... Pretty scary, but also refreshing (and they looked so nice-- Maybe it's just me being biased on dresses heh). Them not clinging to Iggy anymore and being more of their own (perfect) person. Though they still weren't themself... (btw all the Iggys were very cute, I love them; and scene with Iggy acting like he is dying made me laugh!! <3) But anyway... Seeing that apologizing to them (Gidget) doesn't solve anything was so good! Problem was much deeper and even if it was good for Gidget to let all of the rage out, it was so scary... I'm not even going to talk about little spiders... Since arc 3 I wanted Iggy to talk to Gidget and help them... So they would know it is okay to not be perfect and they shouldn't change themself for him. And then it FINALLY happened!! Though it wasn't Iggy who made the change, but Cecil. His death was so moving, it was another very emotional moment... I loved how it was consistent from beginning that he knew arc4!Gidget wasn't the true Gidget and he wanted best for them. And he succeed! Cutting hair was a powerful moment, I love that cg with Gidget still in violet dress, but not looking perfect anymore... Btw, I also love how you handle conflicts, it makes me want to learn more about writing them! And next scene with them made me so happy ;w; I loved it so so much, it made a huge impression on me!! (Also I remembered that weather forecast from before was talking about "PERFECT", sunny weather, and when Iggy walked to his room after fight, it was raining. Such a cool detail!!) Their talk with Iggy in Jerry's base was great too... I'm glad they saw their mistakes and are regretful for that they done and that they will never do something like this!! Great development really!!

And since I mentioned Jerry I like him as well!! He is a very funny character... Hope he won't die...*sweating through laughter*

Okay, now I said everything I wanted about arc 5 I think?? Let me talk about others! Iggy first!! He is such a great and relatable protagonist. As someone who struggles with maintaining contact with friends, as an ace, as a person who has no idea what to say when something serious is happening, even as a person having stomach ache often xD Also he is very likeable, I'm not suprised everyone loves likes him so much!! And it may sound funny, but since his first stomach ache I was happy that there is a character I can relate in this way. I had so many of them, I felt so anxious and bad that I feel that way when someone was too close to me (uh, in romantic way though, I'm aro as well)... Nothing as bad as Iggy experienced has happened to me, but seeing him struggling the same way was reassuring in some way... (though I want him to be happy as well and to not be anxious anymore, don't get me wrong!! I Hope he will be happy in the end with whoever he will be!). Also him blaming himself when others are not happy... True people pleaser as Orlam said. Though his self-blaming is not okay (but adds so much dephts imo!!) and I Hope he will get better after escaping from Wonderland.  Anddd he even made me want to call my friend! And to start showing friends that I care about them more! Also seeing Genzou being such a great ace supporter (I love how he joked about it in Jerry's base) and even Orlam respecting his boundaries!! I'm really Hoping Gidget will join ace-icon-Iggy protection squad (lol) as well! Speaking of which, glad to see them more understanding and respectful in arc 5! <3 

Aaah, talking about this all reminded me of final of arc 1, it was SOOO AMAZINGLY DONE, and great, awesome, and I loved it!! I saw pattern in flashbacks and wanted Iggy to see that he was neglecting his friends. Like he wasn't even thinking about this before and had no idea - I love how visible this is! So when he reached his conclusion, even though his wish was depressing and I didn't expect him to go this far, it was very satisfying (and sad). And I didn't see Bucks killing Saydie to come to Wonderland coming at all!! OH YEAH I WANT TO TALK ABOUT BUCKS LATER!!

Buuuuuut since I'm talking about scenes now let me tell you that Our World song was AMAZING!! IT MADE SUCH A SCARY... Uhh... Those eyes... Poor Iggy... MOMENT EVEN MORE MEMORABLE!! Great choice! 

Thoooough even more impression made Cunning Monsters/Orlam's Revenge!! THAT MOMENT WAS AWESOME!! Genzou saying all those awful things... So close to being boiled alive... But saying them anyway, more and more awful... and then! Orlam snapping with laughter! I LOVED IT, GREAT, OUTSTADING, FASCINATING!! It made me soooo curious about Orlam, I couldn't wait to learn more about him since then!! Anddddd speaking of him... He is SUCH AN INTERESTING CHARACTER!! SERIOUSLY!! I'm pretty used to tropes like "bullied character > shy, poor baby, others has to help them, etc" (I'm not saying characters like this are bad, I even like them!), so seeing a bullied character who has more about them going on... Like loving being around people! Loving parties and living in luxury! Loving eating people!! Being so smooth and a great dancer! And a very very good observator!! I never saw character like that!! (And let me add that his rattail is cute :3) And also I love characters that make me change my opinion after learning more about them! Usually I like very much creepy, kinda pathetic, weird characters, but he made me kinda uncomfortable at first and feel like I wouldn't trust him. But later I found out that he is more than just a creep lying about how popular he is! He is also more than just a king with power in Wonderland! And I really like the fact that he is an extrovert andd that roles in Wonderland turned upside down and the lowest in social hierarchy (I have no idea how to call it better) became a king!! All his scenes, when he appears, were so spectacular, I love themmmm!! And seeing how well Iggy was treated in castle in arc 3... That was very, very, very cute (I'm not going to talk about their breakfast hwedaggs byawfgdfdsdfndfvcv) <3 Also fun fact: I happen to have birthday the same day as him, hehe!

Okay now Bucks~ When I started playing I would never guess that her character will touch topic of being a parent/mother. I think I never saw anyone to potray a non-villain character as a (bad and) very, veryyyy tired mother, who just wants some good sleep night and if she hears any cry or screaming at night she is going to lose it, oh please, just oNE GOOD SLEEP AND QUIET, QUIET NIGHT. It made me realize that being a parent is a great ordeal, much greater than I saw other media made it to be. (Usually when I see parenting problems in media it is when their teenage child is rebelious or something). Anddddd... SHE IS SO FRIGHTENING EVERY CHAPTER. SECTIONS WITH HER ARE SO SCARY. And I love it!! Also there is a detail I'm very happy I noticed and this is that hearing anybody cry/scream makes her blood boil. Like just before she killed Orlam or Gidget. She wasn't as angry as she was after they started screaming. AND IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!! IT FITS HER HATERED TO HEAR SAYDIE CRY AT NIGHT SO SOOOO WELL!! I'm very impressed with your writing and cool details like those!!

But hmmm... How could it be that I still didn't talk about Genzou? His character is sooo great!! Just like when I was talking about Orlam I love how he is more than just a bully!! He isn't just an overconfident, mean person for no reason (like I saw many other bully characters to be), it's the opposite! But also his rude behavior towards Orlam doesn't define his whole personality, he has so much beside this!! I love him being overprotective of Iggy and understanding like no one else!! It really shows how he cares for him, awww :'D Though I also very much like that he made such a bad mistake (I'm talking about afterprom, I think I have a good grasp of what had happened there,,,,) and that he still is a good, but very flawed person! He is so reliable and you can always ask him what to do, where to go next, which made him breaking down in the beginning of arc 5 so much more heartbreaking... And I love that he still has plushie Iggy gave him and he even holds it in one cg aahhhh... He really treasures it, doesn't he? They are just too cuteeee TwT And ughhh, everytime he thinks he is not worthy of Iggy's love,,,,, NOOO, YOU ARE SO MUCH WORTHY, PLEASE, CAN't they all just be happy? (I love them for being their complicated messes who have many problems and issues though)

Also I have to mention about hOW GOOD CGS FROM ARC 5 LOOK??? LIGHTING??? COLORS??? POSES AND BACKGROUNDS????? ALSO ANIMATION????? As a fellow artist I'm very happy to see how your artstyle improved!! NOT TO MENTION HOW EXPRESSIVE IT IS?? I ALWAYS LOVE HOW ORLAM SMUG FACE LOOKS, HIS SMIRKS AND CRAZY EXPRESSIONS ARE SO GREAT!! AND HSADSDHABS FOR SOME REASON I LOVE SPRITES WHERE GENZOU LOOKS SOMEWHERE FAR AWAY???? THEY ADD SO MUCH TO ATMOSPHERE, ALL THESE SHORT OR LONGER MOMENTS WHERE WE CAN SEE HOW HE IS THINKING DEEPLY ABOUT SOMETHING OR TRIES TO ACCEPT SOMETHING-- (also they made me realize how important little gestures like these are in art, thank you!!) 

And idk where to write this, but here are other small details I noticed/wanted to mention: Iggy not liking to look at himself in mirror, but feeling that he looks good in suit, in arc 3/// I wonder if arc5!Giget was designed to have enby flag colors (blond hair, white&black shirts and purple as a main color) or it wasn't planned~ also I love that their look is Cecil-inspired aww :'D /// And don't think I didn't notice Iggy's ace-colored mouse pad xD

This is getting too long, but I have to mention that I love how animated chapter 5 is, I mean their fight with tomatos, all the running, etc!! I'm bad at reading scenes where there are mostly descriptions and no dialogue, but they helped me stay focused and were very nice and fun to see!! It shows how much work you put into making this <3

Also I'm willing to make a petition to give everyone a hug and a headpat (if they would be okay with this!) 

Sorry for such a long comment, I Hope it wasn't tiring to read! I just love your game so much that I want to talk about everything I liked in it for hours <333 Thank you so so much for making it and good luck with last part!! I'm going to support your works even after Our Wonderland is finished! And I wanted to add that reading your dev log is a great fun and you seem like a very kind and nice person, Carrot!! But please, remember to take breaks, don't overwork yourself and take care!! Have a great day!!! 83

Hi Creator, I'm so sorry to bother you and I'm sorry if this was already answered before, first of all, you are great, but I've already told you that 1000 times lol, now the thing is, is it possible that some of the CGs, in the last build are censored by default, even with the censored mode being turned off?

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For example, in the scene where Orlan lights up the room and reveals a bunch of rabbits.  Some spots are pixelated.

Anyway I'm loving everything about the latest build, I was just wondering about the censor.  Keep up the amazing work!

I LOVE this games a lot, This games are my favorites for me. 

I REALLY relate to Iggy, I can kinda say that we are the same person, I also love the design's of the characters. 

Keep it up, Carrot!! 

-Star/Mel

Hello, it's me again and I have a problem. 

Of course, I have already played all of your games, but “Our Wonderland” has problems with saving.

Let me clarify: I completed the whole game - the menu shows that I completed it completely, but when I restart, the menu shows that I did not even start the game (1 arc). And those arts that I came across throughout the game also disappeared, like the Replay.

It was constant, but it’s good that the saves in the walkthrough were not lost, and I can replay these saves (in total I have 18 save slots), but I can’t say about the art and the game menu... I was wondering if I COMPLETELY replay the game, would it be ok even if I turn the game back on? 

This really bothers me, because just to look at the art that I have already seen- 

Speaking of which, even the skip doesn’t work, because I went through them too, the game will tell me: “Yes, I know you have a save, but for me, you’re going through them for the first time!”

Tell me, am I not the only one who has this problem, or have other players also had similar moments? 

Thanks for your reply in advance, and have a nice time!🦊✨

OMG, Carrot, have you SLEPT in the last few months? I was not expecting an update so soon after the last, but I'm loving it!  That way of handling Orlam was awesome.  

One minor suggestion for future: Add a way to skip to certain arcs/sections.  My friend had to reformat her computer and lost her save file, and it's kind of a long game to replay to find out what happens next.  I've been jonesing for her to catch up so we can discuss the latest developments!

Ok dear, I finally finish the playing. Looking forward to the final part!!🥰 But I truly hope that it could be... SAFE. NO ONE WILL EVER BE HURT IN ANY WAY.

Firstly, let's just talk about the happy part I met.

In fact, I just want to choose "Bid goodnight" in the second option, after I go to Genzou's side when I want to spend the night in the rabbit's den. I, as a bisexual, I don't know which option to choose as an asexual like iggy. But, I feel like I'm asking too much for him at the moment, and I went to Genzou, to his bed, and said what he meant to me. I don't think I can afford to "put my head on his shoulder". I,, I don't want him to feel that I am too close to him, I don't want him to feel that I am pitying him, comforting him, and then what if he hates me because of it. I just want his love, even if it's only a little closer can satisfy me...🥺

He said that line later, the line "I love you, Iggs". I felt the pain, though it is exactly what I wanted him to say to Iggy, I still felt a real pain of sadness. Kind of strange.

Ok, now just talking about the latter sections, shall we? 

After they entered the castle, I have to say that I was really scared to death. The sound of Iggy and the others touching the jars, the sound of switching on and off the lights, and the sound of opening the door really gave me a terrible feeling. As if Orlam would sneak them out of the dark and chop them up...

Now, after they met Orlam. 

ah. . It’s scary, Orlam is scary, but Carrot, you really drew a lot of new moves and standing paintings for Orlam, and the painting style in this room feels obviously much more refined, whether it’s Orlam or Genzou. Really a lot of new moves, Carrot is awesome.

Ah, ah, I forgot that Genzou didn't know that Iggy had eaten his flesh. . And the third week he even feels delicious. Even Gidget doesn't know about it (although Gidget also ate "steak" in Arc4)

OK, Too close,, Gen you are so close to Orlam, even closer than the rabbit with Iggy. But I, can say nothing, since Gen and Orlam, too complicated.  My mind wants to feel jealous about this scene, but I really can't feel jealous emotionally. .😢

...Iggy really hates touching, he has always hated touching being asexual in OW, Orlam said the fact that he's close to Iggy to Genzou, yes. . It's very frustrating.

Ok finally, about the suffer Genzou got. my feeling when I saw the plot was:

Gen, say it, say it. . . You are so scary, your silence is so scary, I feel like my heart is about to pop out. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I don't want to see the next step, seriously, I really don't want to see it. Carrot, why, why do you always scare me more than I expected, why, I'm so scared. . . A creepy thriller, a dha dja'd ajd ia dskjas dba

Huh, huh, luckily it didn't go down, didn't it go down, right? ? ? !

Later, Genzou's apology to Orlam was very in line with my expectations, very in line with, the feeling of being afraid of being left out, very in line with my guess. But here I won't describe the content of Genzou's apology, because the fact that Orlam started "dying" directly exceeded my expectations, and Iggy and the others can pick Genzou's fingers first.

Also, to be honest, the music is good, really good, the song when they left the castle.💕

This passage can be very out of grammar or something like this. . I'm sorry because I'm in a bit of a mess right now after the playing.😟

Finally, I will send you a tumblr ask...

Hello, sorry for the stupid question, I'm just VERY CUSTOMIZED to play the main game as well to get a feel for it all (I like odd and scary stuff) but I wanted to, where do I start?

I just, I want to complete the game completely, and I see these games piece by piece, if I have to play all of them (as parts), then it’s good,
but if there are already (approximately, because I realized that the 5 arc is not ready yet) full version.

I can't wait to get to know Orlam and the other characters 👀🦊

P.s.

(And I'll still say something: I thought that Orlam and Genzo and Iggy were teenagers... But no, they are almost all 30, I was shocked, that they look young, but they are older (maybe they look younger in Wonderland? This is my suggestion, sorry for the reaction) because I also look young, like a schoolboy with 5'3, but I'm 20 now🤣🤣🤣

Forgive me, my King (Orlam), but I still want to study the Land of Nightmares, because I am drawn to terrible, horror things✨)

i finished this game in about 24 hours? i can count the number of significant breaks i took on one hand. i have played through all three side games. consider me consumed :)

anyways!! i am using this to gush about the game! because my friends are tired of me screaming at them about it!

ngl i was ready to throw hands with arc 3 iggy but thats okay. relate very heavily on being a people pleaser, and always, always just wanting to make those around you happy even if it's absolutely not your duty. him feeling like he ruined everyone's lives is so real of him. i am also ace! he is just like me fr! i really felt the "broken/i can fix him narratives" in a more general sense (i've gotten more subtle "things change/are you sure/youre too young/general assumptions that i will end up in some sort of heteronormative relationship) but also with gidget and them both trying to fill the roles set out by society and the expectations set by each other and themselves. two different characters commenting on iggy's pathetic small wet cat nature being cute made me cackle.

GIDGET!!! i went from kinda sympathetic but also fuck off to them being my favorite of the main cast. im transmasc and the instant i smelled gender dysphoria i started going rabid over them. anyways expectations of society + trying to be good for others + always being compared to an older sibling is very nice to explore and i was absolutely cheering for them when they flipped a table and chopped off their hair. the urge is strong for me too. WHEN THEY LITERALLY LOCKED CECIL AWAY it took me a hot second but physically locking away your masculinity/general non-femininity but not being able to kill it and it still finding its way back to you (is what i got from it no idea if it's less literal but it's my interpretation and i do what i want).

orlam. is the most sympathetic for me. but also. still a greasy little man. i think he needs new friends. and therapy. but i loved his vibes! they were very discomforting! will probably play his route next! i dont know why! hes kinda slimy but i can take that apparently! hes not justified but like. i get it? good character. i tried to be nicer and defend him starting in arc 2 because he is Sad. i think the crayons and the scribbled drawings really remind me of childhood. and his lack of control and powerlessness compared to his father. orlam's wish is for control, mostly, and i feel like it's partly because of how his friends treated him but also because of his childhood and feeling helpless in the face of his father. anyways. did i make up the rabbit as his father in one of the drawings or no (i havent slept correctly in two days). all the toys in his room despite is being so ornate and kingly..........and i thought i was going a little insane when i thought orlam had a crush on genzou. that is what happened. right. i am too aro to properly discern relationships. but that tragedy is so delicious.

genzou is very friend shaped and i love him. hes so cute. talk 30 miles a minute and still not be able to say whats important. very relatable. other than eating him so many times was getting kinda awkward i really loved him and going through his route. he feels like the safest choice but also! he is warm and safe and i think iggy just needs someone to hold him yknow. i was very "babygirl we need to talk" when it came to him and orlam's relationship but when he finally was able to shut up and tell Orlam he never hated him?? fuck me i guess??? the emotions were emotioning. he has a lot to answer for, and it's not justified, but again, i get it.

nothing on bucks yet as we havent really gotten too much but i am intrigued :)

adding the doll here because the bag just moving in the real world means that wonderland is not as cut off. you dont keep any injuries you sustained and not even your memories most of the time but that doll is Moving. the dolls hanging in the woods outside bucks' cabin, the doll in the dreams asking to kill her....im so hyped for the next update man holy shit.

jerry!! jerry is a real one. i did say that it was too bad he'd end up doing a noble sacrifice and dying for us. but then he did about 2 minutes later. too soon man. hes witty, hes brave, hes strong, hes kind, i love him. anyways spinoff where we kiss the rabbit man when (jk jk). 

the absolute dread and discomfort throughout was amazing. the non-violent scenes were even more horrific for me a lot of the time. the vibes were awful. the dread was building. incredible writing. and the soundtrack? holy shit. amazing. gorgeous. will listen to on repeat for a long while. everything fit so well. i really appreciated the absurdity of it all. the killer tomatoes, the iggys, a huge eye with a tongue. it's so silly, i love it, and it balances out the awfulness of everything.

i probably forgot. most things. it's been a long day and a bit. here's to a happy ending where they get therapy.

omg nOOOOOOO
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IS THERE NO WAY FOR JERRY TO LIVE BECAUSE IM SO SADDD NOOOOOO I LOVED HIM SO MUCH AND I HATE HOW EVERYTIME HE WOULD SAY SOMETHING HE'D JUST CUT HIMSELF OFF LIKE I REALLY WANTED HIM TO GET MORE TIME T^T. WHERE IS HE EVEN FROM ??? SHOULD I REMEMBER HIM? BECAUSE OMG HES ALREADY MY 2ND FAVORITE AND HES JUST NOW POPPING UP. 

the 3am tears. im not even done with the arc...pure pain.

I knew this update wad gonna awesome, I loved the interaction between Iggy and jerry! My heart died when he protected Iggy and got hurt. (Pls let jerry be alive and survive somehow) Anyway, the way you make characters interact with each other makes it seem so real(i strive to write character interactions like that). This is one of the best visual novels i ever played.

The characters. Iggy. He scared, scared of a lot of things people down say out loud in the real world. He makes me... mad? I wouldn't say that's the right work but I'd say its close. because at time I'd be like, "Iggy! Get up! Fight!" Then I'd remember 'oh he's weak', in comparison to Gidget, I feel like their more active and stronger. Speaking of Gidget I love them. The way they changed after they accepted their wrongs even though they didn't forgive themselves of it. Genzou, I love him. He's done things he's not proud of. He didn't say anything to what he hated about Orlam when I honestly thought he was going to. But he didn't, he even lost a finger. It shows that he can shut up sometimes. Even if it hurts him. I teared up a little when he said he didn't hate him. Orlam, I can't say much about him, but i like him more now. I didn't like him at first because well, he's weird and creepy. But, he spoke the truth. About everyone when didn't want to hear it. And I wish I could do that to sometimes (even if it hurt me). Orlam removed his heart so he couldn't feel the pain. Which lots of people want to do, but that doesn't work. Even though he removed his heart, when Genzou didn't respond (the one he liked the most) he felt something. He began to panic when Genzou came closer to him.

man these characters are deep

This story is so well written!

But what got me the most is when they didn't hold Iggy over a pedestal. Instead they forgave him. Like he forgave them.

Anyway I love this game, and I can't wait to see Bucks, and I can't wait to see more from you!

found the time to get to this and i see the call back to Our Fantastic Wondering in the new update hee-hee, currently going through the game now lets see where this new addition goes.

Where do I even start... First off this is honestly one of the best visual novels I've played so far. I'm IN LOVE with every element of this game and I haven't even gotten to the last arc because I'm savoring every bit of it: The gorgeous illustrations that have me staring at my screen for unreasonable amounts of time before continuing the story, the enchanting ost that fits every moment perfectly, the way the cast of characters are written, the plotline and how when I start a new arc it NEVER feels repetitive whatsoever, the way the story is narrated with a sense of familiarity that makes the player feel completely immersed; and definitely my favorite aspect of the game: the impeccable choice of words throughout the whole game. The descriptions of scenes, backgrounds, characters and mood are so precise that I feel like I could close my eyes the entire time and be able to visualize everything perfectly in my mind. And the music and sound effects accompanying these descriptions make your real surroundings vanish. 

I have cried countless times throughout this story because these characters feel just so REAL. They all just wish to escape reality, for one reason or another: Iggy wanted to escape his day-to-day work life, Genzou wanted to spend some time with him, Orlam wanted to make his own rules and finally have power over others for once and stop being pushed around, Gidget wanted to become a famous model so that Iggy would fall for her after so many years of trying, and Bucks never wanted to have so many responsibilities and have to take care of a child for the rest of her life, she never wanted to seal her fate and marry Hunar because she's a free spirit. But these childish wishes quickly turned everyone into delusional monsters, the fantasy gave them too much power.

They've had to rely on each other all these years because they didn't have any other friends outside of the group, but despite that, they managed to do completely unforgivable things to each other all due to the same problem: miscommunication. If Genzou had worked up the courage to confess his feelings to Iggy, he wouldn't have tried to steer him towards Gidget. If Gidget had realized earlier on that Iggy was oblivious to all of the signs pointing towards her liking him, then she would've been honest with him, and he would've had the time to digest the information properly and start deciding how he felt about things sooner, therefore coming to a conclusion much earlier than he did. If Iggy had stood up for Orlam when he was being bullied by Genzou, Orlam wouldn't have wanted to rule over everyone and get his revenge. If Bucks had realized that she didn't have to marry Hunar nor have a kid if she didn't want to, she wouldn't have been so overwhelmed by adulthood and wouldn't have tried to run away in the first place.

All in all (as I think you can tell), I really enjoyed the depth of the characters and the way the story was written, so thank you so much for working so hard on this game, as I will most likely play it all over again several times and share it with friends once I'm done with it.

I never left comments on the games I played out of shyness, and I feel really anxious posting this haha !

However, after playing this game again yesterday because of the new release I felt the NEED to write about this game. (Maybe I am overeacting but anyways.)

I already played your game a first time, before the new release.

I just fell in love.

I really want to say that it is perfect, at least for me, cause this is exactly the type of games I love : The art, the animations, the story, the universe, the characters... I loved everything.

I became quickly attached to your characters. They're all well worked, thoughtful.

They all have their pasts, worries, traumas, qualities and flaws.

After finishing what was in the game, I followed your updates on twitter and I was very excited to have the sequel. So you can imagine how happy I was to hear that the new release was coming.

(I even have a section on my phone's gallery DEDICATED to your game LOL)

I played it last night, I restarted the WHOLE game, I rediscovered the characters, the illustrations, the music...

When it was over, I was just there, overwhelmed, my face covered with tears.

/!\ For those who haven't played the new part of the game (or the entire game) yet, SPOILERS ALERT. /!\

So.

I can't count the number of emotions you made me feel. From the start, this game kept getting better and better.

I cried so many times.

During the "nighttime chats", at the death of Jerry, and especially during THE confrontation with Orlam.

I must say that I suspected, like Iggy, what happened between Genzou and Orlam.

But, like Iggy, I didn't really want to admit it.

Hearing it (...rather reading it) EXPLICITLY really did something to me. (especially when I saw that AMAZING illustration of Genzou and Orlam dancing :') )

I don't know how to explain it, and I don't know what to think of it at the moment.

I must say that Genzou has been my favorite character since the beginning but I found him very unfair to Orlam. And so my affection for him (as for the others, I'll explain it right after) makes me feel guilty.

Although their actions are "understandable" given the situation, I cannot love the characters without feeling guilty.

I truly love them all. I love Iggy, Genzou, Gidget, Orlam and Bucks.

But I feel guilty for loving them because of what they did throughout the game, before and during the trip to Wonderland : Iggy's very (too) clumsy advices and remarks, when he ATE AND KILLED GENZOU >:( ,Genzou's behavior towards Orlam, Gidget's sexual assaults on Iggy, Orlam's tortures and murders, and the final scenes with Bucks....

I could only get rid of this guilty feeling that I have when they'll have this much-needed (At least for me ^^'') discussion. They apologized, more or less "forgiven", but they didn't really discuss all of it. (and well it's understanble because they didn't really had the time lol)

So I can't wait, now that they all seem less reluctant to open up, and once they bring Bucks to her senses and are all safe, to see them talk, explain, forgive themselves and eachothers for real.

I realize by writing this, that it may sounds like a “complaint”, BUT REALLY NOT !!

On the contrary, it is this paradox of feelings that I feel towards the characters that makes me love this game so (maybe too) much.

Honestly, your game made a HUGE impression on me the first time I played it.

It marked me even MORE after playing it again and discovering this new part.

And I know it will mark me EVEN MORE when I'll play it a third time and discover the end.

Reading the comments, I wondered how people could write so much, but now that I'm writting myself I understand better !

I can say for sure that this game is my FAVORITE.

Thank you so much for this. <3

(I'm french so sorry for the mistakes if there's any !)

Arc 5 Part 1 1/2 was certainly not disappointing to go through. I kinda forgot about the game for a few months, but it instantly recaptured me once I played through the new update.

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Kinda interesting to see Jerry's presence in the story. I'm assuming he's the main antagonist from OFW (which would explain why Genzou was so furious at him)? I presume the one-on-one interactions with him and the adoption of the nickname "kit" for Iggy was to make everyone feel attached to him and so they would distraught at the trio leaving him. Makes sense after all; he's really only a significant presence in OFW, and he's there to be more of a villain than anything. Kinda sad that there wasn't much for him after the trio entered the sewers though.

Honestly, I think I said all I needed to say about Genzou in my past comments. He generally stays very caring and protective of Iggy, as well as his respect of sexual boundaries. Though I like this emphasis on his issues; while we (the players) are made aware of how shit his treatment of Orlam was, we perceived him in the eyes of Iggy, and so he appears to be this very kind and heroic person. It brings awareness to the fact that despite not being as blatantly monstrous as Gidget and Orlam in the peak of their "worlds", he very much still has fundamental issues as a person (though that can be derived from his self-deprecating talk and lack of optimism anyway). Orlam basically says this when he's talking to Genzou, so yeah.

While I still love Genzou (cause he's sweet like that), I've started to take a liking to Gidget now that we've actually started seeing them in a positive light and without their forced hyperfemininity. They express their care and concern for Iggy differently from Genzou, seeing how there's a lack of physical affection and moreso small acts that indicate that they're thinking about Iggy. They also have a particularly serious side, and I always love that in characters (mostly because I have a serious nature myself). The surprisingly nuanced vocabulary makes them sound smart, and I am also loving that aspect of them. There still is the previous arcs, the entirety of Arc 4, and the beginning of Arc 5 to consider... Gidget has certainly done bad things. But I wouldn't say they could truly be written off as a bad person, considering their own motivations and fundamental issues (one of them being gender identity; very big mood).

Orlam certainly is interesting. His whole thing seemed to be centered around avoiding his emotions and seeking short-term gratification (though that's more emphasized in his arc). So much so, that he removed his whole heart and put it on a podium. Considering how much torment he faced, it's not unreasonable for him to want to reject his emotions entirely. After all, it's only brought him pain. Genzou was the main perpretrator, Gidget mostly cared about Iggy, Iggy didn't do much to interfere, and Bucks and Hunar were not as close to the group. The crush and temporary joy he had with Genzou was destroyed because of Genzou's own fear for himself. That does put things into perspective, and it makes sense why he would look towards dating apps and whatnot. They don't need as much commitment and they don't cause a person to feel pain, but they provide quick and easy satisfaction. The "game" scene... of course, it's the person that "hated" him the most that didn't say anything he hated about Orlam. And the apology he needed to hear from Genzou truly "touched" him. I interpreted him crying the black tears as the evil (representative of his hatred, resentment) sorta "draining" from him. That would make sense, since the heart started spewing out what seemed like blood, which shows that Genzou's words reached him and his humanity is returning to him. The hatred no longer remains.

Uhh. I didn't expect to write that much, though it isn't NEARLY as long as my previous comment (I probably won't write anything that long again anyway). But overall, I enjoyed this update as well! I'm looking forward to Arc 5 Part 2 (unless there's gonna be a Part 1 1/2 1/2 or something), and how the group deals with Bucks. ^^

I SOBBED MY EYES OUT OMG I LOVED THIS SM

my heart did a few flips while i played this methinks...

ANYWAYS I LOVE HOW GIDGET IS LIKE

GETTING COMFORTABLE WITH THEMSELF ??? THEY'RE SO ADORABLE AND SOMEWHAT RELATABLE IN THAT SENSE AND I JUST LOVE THEM SM (obviously doesn't make what happened. right. but yknow. inflluence of the place + trauma and all that fun stuff so I STILL LOVE THEM SM)

and orlam

omg i sobbed (not commenting anything specific bc i'm too lazy to do the spoiler thing BUT I THINK I SOBBED ABOUT HIM THE MOST RAHH)

HII NOT MUCH ACTIVE ON TWITTER.. BUT I DID NOTICE YOU WORKING VERY HARD ON MAKING UPDATES ON CHAPTER 1 1/2 (notifications cough) JUST WAITING FOR MY FRIEND SO WE CAN PLAY TOGETHER :3 I WILL EDIT THIS WHEN WERE BOTH DONE AND SAY SOME THOUGHTS!

arc 5 part 1 1/2 was so good i need to jump off a bridge 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭so so good...

Another delicious morning scrolling through my emails 

And whats this? Itch??? Did my account get hacked or something???

Huh

.   .   .   .

NO FUCKING WAY

ANYWAY SO THATS HOW I FOUND OUT THIS GAME GOT UPDATED YAY

I am now in the procces of playing it, took a little break to start writing this before I get to see the one and only Rattail King (and get the trauma affiliated with him ;) ) 

BUT BEFORE I GET TO IT AGAIN

DEAR ME OH MY LORD I WAS NOT EXPECTING THE THING THE OMFG

As a very strong supporter of Giggy???? Iggenzou??? Do they have an official ship name??? Idk, BUT! whatever it is, as a big fan of it, that whole scene got me crying BUCKETS esp the last line 

NOW AFTER THIS WILL BEGIN THE OLDER MORE TRAUMATIZED ME'S MESSAGE 🥳

holy shit. no way. i am absolutely speechless.

i now know true pain (tears were shed)

loooord why they gotta be so angsty in their 30's (still love them all)

OKAY DAMN THAT WAS A ROLLERCOASTER

Def didnt expect our local ginger to SCOOP OUT HIS HEART

But thats fine they solved it with the power of friendship

RIGHT SO

As I said this was such a rollercoaster but hell do I absolutely love it

Was it traumatizing? No? Kinda? Yes? I am not quite sure but it was way more angsty than traumatizing. I really hope Orlam and Genzou get to talk it out properly after this thing is done or before the story concludes. God I just want them all to be happy (Iggy kinnie much) 

Overall I really enjoyed it, I hope they all get their happy ending, even tho ik they will in the end (RIGHT???? ILL GO INSANE IF THEY DONT) and yea

Oh and ABSOLUTELY LOVED THE CUTSCENES ESPECIALLY THE  BIG ONE , you can clearly see there was a lot of work and time put into them AND THE WHOLE THING ACTUALLY

Thank you Carrot for offering this absolute masterpiece for us all to enjoy

AAAAAAAAAAND THATS IT 

I really wanted to write more but I am not a very great writer so thats that (even as a not great writer, your writing is majestic I swear to god)

If something else pops in my head Ill probably write another thing

Sorry if I am wasting your time but I cant help to not share my love for this masterpiece. 

OKAY NOW IM REALLY DONE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND I WISH YOU A GREAT AND LOVELY DAY/NIGHT

(respectfull) Muah

What a master piece!!!❤️❤️❤️I absolutely adore the art, music, and characters<333 Putting my own affection aside, I really do shed my tears when the climax comes.

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Just something is not really adding up to me. I'm still quite confused with Genzou's behaviors. Why would Genzou fall in love with Iggy (maybe I forget, but seriously idk anything now)? He clearly had some precious moments in the past with Orlam, and they even danced secretly in high shool. Now he confessed that he never hated Orlam. Then, why wouldn't he fell in love with Orlam instead of Iggy??? 

Since the player is seeing the perspective from Iggy, I remembered the awkward kiss between Iggy and Genzou in Arc 2. If Genzou indeed loves Iggy, and Iggy has to do it because of the plot, I'm fine with that. However, if Genzou, in fact, loves Orlam and just uses Iggy as a cover, and then he takes (probably) Iggy's first kiss, I'm not really okay with it. There is a feeling of betrayal, especially when I wish Orlam and Iggy can have a chance to end up together. Now, I'm so perplexed whether Genzou loves Iggy or Orlam. I mean if Genzou loves Orlam, and they want to be together in the end, then I guess I can only wish them the best, if that'll make Orlam happy, tho I still can't quite accept the fact that Genzou bullied Orlam in the past.💔

LOL, seriously right before Genzou's confession, when Orlam asks Iggy what Iggy hates about him, I really hope Iggy can answer that "I hate that you've loved Genzou who has not been good to you for so long. I hate that you won't lay your eyes on me, and consider me as a better option than Genzou, even at the very moment." Except, Iggy will never say something like that. Just my tiny imagination for my ship. How I wish Iggy can be stronger, struggle to be free from the rabbit, and hug Orlam so hard that he wishes to have his heart back to experience the happiness in this very moment. Then, Genzou does everything I want Iggy to do... For the fans who ship Orlam x Iggy, the future seems dark and misty. Genzou x Orlam and Genzou x Iggy have a much better chance to happen. TAT 

I still can't believe that they are around their 30s and are now trying to reconcile their childhood drama LMAO.

Collapsing. Withering. Becoming nothingness. Et cetera et cetera. 

(As always, thank you Carrot and great job on the latest update 💜)